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Jackson Painter's avatar

I read Tanner's titles then move on--just non-contextual axe grinding.

ClearMiddle's avatar

The "two conflicting creation stories" sounds like docmentary hypothesis JEPD stuff. The better commentaries deal with it as you do.

Don't know how much our science around genetics matches reality, but if it's somewhat on track then it makes sense that Eve came from Adam. Those whose trust is in their own abilities have their reward.

From your email this morning, "Do not worry about tomorrow" is what came to mind.

Salix Dreaming's avatar

Baculum

Dubs's avatar

This is why it is very important to understand literary techniques used in the Bible such as recapitulation, which is used between Genesis 1 and 2, and you'll be able to see right through the two creation psyop.

And use proper and consistent hermeneutics. The truth is that God is sovereign over everything including knowing everything that's about to happen. He did not experiment with anything. He predestined everything.

It isn't until Eve comes in that He shows us His relational level. God wants to be in a relationship with us like Adam was in a relationship with Eve. This is all a picture of the Gospel. We're His bride. Adam is a picture of Christ. The church is Eve. Adam was pierced. Christ was pierced. Two blood atonements, bringing forth reconciliation. Praise God.

Texas 1130's avatar

I think it is a spiritual comment - as in "at his side" or help mate. Then I don't take scripture literally as in the word of the law. That is a more Hebrew understanding. Jesus spoke in a depth difficult to comprehend in its full meaning. I go by the spirit of the law, as everything He did was in love, even the turning of the tables in the tempe. It was love of the father.

God created Eve for many reasons, not just reproduction. Isn't it interesting Jesus had Mary Magdalene at His side to understand Him in a way the 12 disciples never could.

Jim's avatar

I read this passage and I read God took Adam’s DNA and formed Eve. Just what would this process look like to us today? We are potentially describing something like genetic engineering.

I also think the commentary of Matthew Henry has some validity as well.

“God formed Eve from Adam’s rib — not from his head, lest she should rule over him;

nor from his feet, lest she should be trampled underfoot by him;

but from his side, so that she would be equal with him,

under his arm to be protected,

and near his heart to be beloved.”

I believe the passage supports both views simultaneously. The physical action is described with its technical details like perhaps anesthesia. And the emotional/relational/spiritual aspect of where God chose to take a “sample” (if that is what it was) and Adam’s reaction when presented with his wife.

Meddling Kid's avatar

Your reminder of Jesus being pierced in his ribs is especially noteworthy for further thought.

The Shroud of Turin shows Him pierced on the right.

We see Jesus seated at the right hand of the Father.

We refer to our most important assistant as our right-hand man.

Does anything in the Gen 2 text language suggest the rib or part was from the right? Proverbs certainly indicates a right-good, left-bad association.

If there was something in the physiology of male rib cages on the right side that corresponded to an unusual pattern that wasn’t explainable and didn’t seem to have a purpose, and roughly corresponded to where a spear tip would be thrust through from a ground position to directly strike the pleural effusion sack, that would be yet another amazing clue that God has left for us in plain sight.

Te Time's avatar

The Elohim created mankind. YHWY did his own experiments. He put Adam, one of his creations in a garden/pasture as you would do to your prize bull. He then created a woman. He set up his creation by excluding them from the tree of life. He calls them dirt. He kicks them out of their home and makes them toil the earth.

Meanwhile, the Elohim had already created mankind as we can read in Gen 1 - how else was the earth populated? Who was Cain afraid of? Where did all the people come from if not the Elohim?

And then we should look at the fruits of YHWH.. how’s that working out?