Just say, we want to embrace your detailed theory and analysis of things. First, we have to ignore events like the resurrection of several, following the death of Jesus on the cross, and their appearance to many before being taken up. And don’t forget Jesus appearing to his disciples, several times following his own resurrection; finally, let’s not forget the transfiguration when Jesus spent time in conversations with two well-known profits. Otherwise, yah sounds good.
To me, this is a very difficult teaching to fully grasp and I think you have explained it well. My questions would be how does one explain the parable Messiah Yeshua talked about with the rich man and Lazarus? Could it only be an example or possibly literal? What about those who had been martyred that we read about during the 5th seal of Revelation 6? I believe that the dead are 'sleeping' and just as adam returned to the ground at death, so do we. Our bones eventually degrade and return to the adamah so even if you die at sea or are cremated or are buried it makes no difference. This is part of the mystery but praise be to YHWH who already has the plan before the foundation of the world. HE is in control!
The bible has a continuous theme of the dead being asleep.
1Thess 4:16-17: The dead in Christ will rise first, then those who are left alive will be gathered to Him in the clouds, and we’ll be with Him forever from that point forward. When He comes back.
Sleeping every night is a picture of the resurrection. We don't really know when we fall asleep, but the next thing you know you're awake, and time has passed.
God is not an angry God. As the sustainer of all life, He is not going to sustain the wicked in eternal conscious torment. Think about what that belief says about God. The wicked perish. Eternally gone. Remembrance completely cut off. He is a God of joy and peace. His anger is but for a moment.
I believe that Samuel coming up wasn't actually Samuels spirit, but satan posing as Samuel.
Also, the Sabbath is a picture of eternity. We work and endure, then we rest.
However, you've either ignored or failed to consider all the passages that suggest conscious existence in Sheol.
Lazarus and rich man.
The raising of Samuel.
The Dead trembling in Job 26
Dead in Sheol appearing to communicate in Ezekiel 32
Sheol "stirring up" to meet the king of Babylon in Isaiah 14
And maybe you categorize this differently, but there's also 1 Enoch where he encounters fallen angels and giants in the pit, which is generally interpreted as being a part of Sheol.
Purgatory is a myth. It was created by the Catholic Church based on 2 Maccabees but it completely ignores the reality that praying for the dead (even if such prayers are efficacious, as the text seems to suggest) does not necessitate purgatory. The Dead are in Sheol until the resurrection.
Just say, we want to embrace your detailed theory and analysis of things. First, we have to ignore events like the resurrection of several, following the death of Jesus on the cross, and their appearance to many before being taken up. And don’t forget Jesus appearing to his disciples, several times following his own resurrection; finally, let’s not forget the transfiguration when Jesus spent time in conversations with two well-known profits. Otherwise, yah sounds good.
The all point is resurrection.
The all point is your interpretation of resurrection. My interpretation is not in agreement with yours. But that’s okay. Good read you put out though.
To me, this is a very difficult teaching to fully grasp and I think you have explained it well. My questions would be how does one explain the parable Messiah Yeshua talked about with the rich man and Lazarus? Could it only be an example or possibly literal? What about those who had been martyred that we read about during the 5th seal of Revelation 6? I believe that the dead are 'sleeping' and just as adam returned to the ground at death, so do we. Our bones eventually degrade and return to the adamah so even if you die at sea or are cremated or are buried it makes no difference. This is part of the mystery but praise be to YHWH who already has the plan before the foundation of the world. HE is in control!
The bible has a continuous theme of the dead being asleep.
1Thess 4:16-17: The dead in Christ will rise first, then those who are left alive will be gathered to Him in the clouds, and we’ll be with Him forever from that point forward. When He comes back.
Sleeping every night is a picture of the resurrection. We don't really know when we fall asleep, but the next thing you know you're awake, and time has passed.
God is not an angry God. As the sustainer of all life, He is not going to sustain the wicked in eternal conscious torment. Think about what that belief says about God. The wicked perish. Eternally gone. Remembrance completely cut off. He is a God of joy and peace. His anger is but for a moment.
I believe that Samuel coming up wasn't actually Samuels spirit, but satan posing as Samuel.
Also, the Sabbath is a picture of eternity. We work and endure, then we rest.
Good points, for the most part.
However, you've either ignored or failed to consider all the passages that suggest conscious existence in Sheol.
Lazarus and rich man.
The raising of Samuel.
The Dead trembling in Job 26
Dead in Sheol appearing to communicate in Ezekiel 32
Sheol "stirring up" to meet the king of Babylon in Isaiah 14
And maybe you categorize this differently, but there's also 1 Enoch where he encounters fallen angels and giants in the pit, which is generally interpreted as being a part of Sheol.
I agree with the analysis. It makes sense. I would also suggest reading "the soul after death" by father seraphim rose.
What is Purgatory and the Holy Souls who dwell there? What about prayers for the dead which is mentioned in I think the book of Macabees?
Purgatory is a myth. It was created by the Catholic Church based on 2 Maccabees but it completely ignores the reality that praying for the dead (even if such prayers are efficacious, as the text seems to suggest) does not necessitate purgatory. The Dead are in Sheol until the resurrection.